
Mutant Caldari
Caldari Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2010.11.21 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: Citan
Originally by: Captain Mung
Originally by: Amsterdam Conversations Edited by: Amsterdam Conversations on 20/11/2010 21:32:35 The problem are not the fighter bombers. 8-10k DPS is in the range of 2 sieged dreadnoughts.
The only problem is their tank - 80m EHP, it's ****ing ridiculous. If you ever tried killing an Ihub, you can have a good estimate on how fast you can kill a supercarrier. Under high lag you'll never kill a ship with 80m EHP (or say 50m for a badly fit one), unless you have your own caps/supers to kill it.
To a subcap fleet multiple SCs are either gonna wipe the floor, or they log off and disappear before they die. A normal cap fleet (what 20-30 dreads and 20 carriers?) will just die in a fire anyway.
Easiest fix would imo be: nerf them, make them a real "super" carrier, not an ultracarrier, which it is right now. Then make them cheaper (let's say 4-7b ISK), so people will actually be eager to use and lose them. Nerf the ******ed titan DD, so normal cap fleets become usable again.
The price tag should never be an excuse for an overpowered ship.
Edit: And the only reason for so few people flying SCs at the moment is simple: The demand is way too high, keeping their price around two times the actual build cost. Once the supply meets the demand, everyone and their wife and their children will be flying supercarriers (400 a month or what was it?). Once they are at 12b ISK, the only reason for people to not fly them would be that it requires a seperate account. 12b might sound like much ISK, but with some efford or hard cash it's not problem at all.
Please post the fit you are using that gets you 80m or even 50m EHP on an SC.
A quick EFT gets me a Wyvern with ~43m with mids full of officer mods (all resists are 93.4% or above), T2 extenders and all @ level V.
Aeon can hit 83M ehp without overloading easily
Easily? [Aeon, New Setup 3] Damage Control II Corpus X-Type Armor EM Hardener Corpus X-Type Armor Thermic Hardener Corpus X-Type Armor Kinetic Hardener Corpus X-Type Armor Explosive Hardener Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
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75,481,864 EHP with a maxed Legion and Erebus boosting along with a Slave set, NobleZET3000 and Akemon's ZET5000 and no overheating. However, the Wyvern has 5,060 DPS passive regen at peak recharge(And 45,995,364 EHP) with just a Tengu and 2 implants. We add in a maxed Leviathan and it hits 54,381,540 EHP with a 6,050 DPS passive regen. Yeah I am a pirate. What are you gonna do about it? Killboard link is not allowed to be used in a signature.Applebabe
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